Sim City 5

[AdrIneX]

Well guys what did you honestly expect? I have my popcorn ready because I'll be reading the insane backlash on every gaming website. This is just pure madness. How did people trick themselves into this?

[TraumaHunter]

Login issues are isolated to some people (maybe EA just doesn't like you lol) - everyone i know who played at midnight had 0 issues.

[hopethisisfree]

So whats it like?

[QUOTE=AdrIneX;142615]Well guys what did you honestly expect? I have my popcorn ready because I'll be reading the insane backlash on every gaming website. This is just pure madness. How did people trick themselves into this?

EDIT: Don't worry, you'll be able to play the pirated version of the game with no issues at all

good thinking

[Nighthawk]

So who has this one and what's your opinion? After seeing Totalbiscuit's WTF is on this I'm actually quite interested. The approach that you have to specialize cities is quite interesting.


I'll be getting this one through other means once it becomes available. No way i'm going to pay for this always online nonsense.

[hopethisisfree]

So who has this one and what's your opinion? After seeing Totalbiscuit's WTF is on this I'm actually quite interested. The approach that you have to specialize cities is quite interesting.


I'll be pirating this one once it becomes available. No way i'm going to pay for this always online nonsense.

same. I wasnt going to but ea can go screw themselves.

[hopethisisfree]

Just tried to check out the offical forums to see what people are saying.. its funny, they are all down.. The buy the game now works fine, just the forums dont. Coincedence my bum hole. EA marketing busy at work.

People are kicking off left right and centre.. citys arent saving. money bugs.. online issues.. people are angry.. Its like they never heard of EA or something..

[Skilllos]

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Remember, no discussions or promoting. Tho I think many will set sail. Treasure yeh see, sea-rats!?

I'm kind of curious about the approach they took, but I dislike the drm-controlfreaks at EA. It seems like they actually designed the MP-in-SP to force people into their DRM. I'll probably skip this one. Can't be arsed into their businesmodel.

[livewired500]

Holy crap! EA actually offering refunds?
http://www.pcgamesn.com/simcity/simc...fering-refunds

[Nighthawk]

Remember, no discussions or promoting. Tho I think many will set sail. Treasure yeh see, sea-rats!?

I'm kind of curious about the approach they took, but I dislike the drm-controlfreaks at EA. It seems like they actually designed the MP-in-SP to force people into their DRM. I'll probably skip this one. Can't be arsed into their businesmodel.

edited to your approval . make sure you edit your quote though .

But yeah, the idea is good, but it seems to be forced a lot further than it should have been.

[DeltaHawk5]

Holding out is harder than I thought it would be...I need to play some SimCity4.

[BobbyDylan]

Holding out is harder than I thought it would be...I need to play some SimCity4.

Yeah, I really enjoyed the beta. I'm looking forward to playing it once EA pulls it's giant fucking head out of it's arse. If I hadn't gotten the Collectors Eddition for Ł12 (Ł60 in the uk) on my last trip to India, I'd be a lot more cheesed.

[DeltaHawk5]

Yeah, I really enjoyed the beta. I'm looking forward to playing it once EA pulls it's giant fucking head out of it's arse. If I hadn't gotten the Collectors Eddition for Ł12 (Ł60 in the uk) on my last trip to India, I'd be a lot more cheesed.

Nice, unfortunately it wasn't in stock when I traveled there.

Shame, I'm too broke to buy it in america.

[AdrIneX]

[DeltaHawk5]

That was hilarious, bahaha.

[BobbyDylan]

Bwhahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!

[redstorm]

2.7 Score -overwhelming dislike

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/si...?dist=negative

Isn't always-on DRM great?

[redstorm]

Is it true that every progress made on the player' city will be stored ONLY on the EA server/cloud?

[leblackdragon]

Is it true that every progress made on the player' city will be stored ONLY on the EA server/cloud?

They realized their other vehicle based FPS (no names given) was taking up ridiculous amounts of HD space. So they graciously save everything on their servers as compensation.

[Skilllos]

No Im not becoming a sheep, I just have principles and would not sink so low as becoming a thieving scum. Yes it may or may not be bullshit but at the end of the day if you feel that you dont like the practice then dont buy the product. Pirating the game, will have an effect on the honest consumer, it may not be the number one reason for DRM but it sure as hell have an impact on it. Also, since you mention TB he also said that saying you wont buy the game but then go and pirate it was a bit of a dickish move.

It is, that's why I'm not going to bother getting this game at all, but believing piracy is at fault for the DRM-drama is just too simple. That actually has little to nothing to do with the real reasons. It's a strawmans arguement to lead people into a system where you can't resell nor do stuff that doesn't match their businesmodel. It's also a way to force the developers view of the game upon you. With more ongoing restrictions you are forced into how the dev wants you to experience his game.

[AdrIneX]

Where did I ever say DRM was a good thing???? Ill set it out very clear for you:
-I dont particularly like DRM
-I think people who pirate games are oxygen thieves of the highest order and are literally scum.

DRM isnt a big enough put off for me to not buy the game (at the moment). If it ever did become such a big turnoff I would not buy the game. If however, you feel the DRM is too much then dont buy the game...simples. Not buying the game and then pirating it just kinda proves you arent doing it for your principles merely to rip another party off.

Show me one objective study which clearly states that the issue we're discussing here (refrain from mentioning the word, DeltaHawk fears we might lose our vBulletin license) clearly hurts the sales. There are studies which point out that people who end up doing the "illegal" thing wouldn't have bought it anyway. And there are even studies that suggest it can be even a good thing because of the marketing effect it creates for less popular games. Do you consider Shakespeare as a "lowlife scum" too because he lent some stuff from other authors for his work?

[FightingFirst]

It is, that's why I'm not going to bother getting this game at all, but believing piracy is at fault for the DRM-drama is just too simple. That actually has little to nothing to do with the real reasons. It's a strawmans arguement to lead people into a system where you can't resell nor do stuff that doesn't match their businesmodel. It's also a way to force the developers view of the game upon you. With more ongoing restrictions you are forced into how the dev wants you to experience his game.

It doesnt make me a sheep though lol. All it means is that what you see as an intrusion into your gaming experience doesnt necessarily concern me as much. I never said it was just to do with piracy (and you would be ignorant to assume that publishers wont try to make up money lost from piracy buy forcing it on the paying consumer). At the end of the day the consumer will be the one that suffers from piracy (not necessarily through DRM). You probably have a very good point that iDRM will make the consumer play on origin etc, steams been doing that for years. I would prefer to be able to play without origin but its not a big enough reason for me not to buy the game yet. And that is beside the point, the point Im trying to make is if you dont like the product offered vote with your wallet, if you pirate the game it kinda proves the reason you didnt buy the game was not because of your principles against DRM but becasue you wanted a free ride.

[AdrIneX]

http://www.tweakguides.com/Piracy_3.html

Read this too. It'll open your eyes.

[FightingFirst]

Show me one objective study which clearly states that the issue we're discussing here (refrain from mentioning the word, DeltaHawk fears we might lose our vBulletin license) clearly hurts the sales. There are studies which point out that people who end up doing the "illegal" thing wouldn't have bought it anyway. And there are even studies that suggest it can be even a good thing because of the marketing effect it creates for less popular games. Do you consider Shakespeare as a "lowlife scum" too because he lent some stuff from other authors for his work?

I dont quite understand the point you are trying to make, once again Ill reiterate Im not pro-DRM. I dont think DRM is a good things, but as it is now it doesnt interfere with my gaming experience, if it was I would simply not buy the product. As for your Shakespeare point, really that is one fo the worst analogies ive seen? He didnt copy (depending on which scholars you read) the whole of other peoples plays, there was original work in his play. Downloading a game you are essentially copying the whole of a devs work.

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http://www.tweakguides.com/Piracy_3.html

Read this too. It'll open your eyes.

Which part specifically, Ive read it before. if its the DRM part I agree its not a good thing to put on games. However, saying Im not going to buy the game because of the DRM and then pirating it is a complete fallacy, you are essentially just thieving scum in this case and are no different to a person who breaks into someone's house for free stuff.

[AdrIneX]

As for your Shakespeare point, really that is one fo the worst analogies ive seen? He didnt copy (depending on which scholars you read) the whole of other peoples plays, there was original work in his play. Downloading a game you are essentially copying the whole of a devs work.

Oh wow...

So just copying or "repeating" some stuff (not entirely) is not wrong but completely copying is? You sure are one special apple.

[FightingFirst]

Oh wow...

So just copying or "repeating" some stuff (not entirely) is not wrong but completely copying is? You sure are one special apple.

You really dont see the difference???
Shakespeare is largely (depending on which scholars you listen to) original work. He may have taken ideas from other sources but then put those ideas into his own words/setting/story so the end product is his own. By copying a game, to take your rather poor analogy would have Shakespeare taking someone else's writing, cross out the original authors name and putting his own name on it and then putting it on in the theatre for free so the person who actually came up with the play looses money. And lol you are calling me the special apple when I am the only one out of us who seems to have a moral backbone and not resorting to stealing other peoples property...